PV Baseball

[Unchained]

HE didnt attack someone, go at someone with physical harm as intent. You are trying too hard to put this on PV. It was ONE kid who did something very stupid, but to say its the same as fighting or PHYSICAL ALTERCATIONS is ridiculous.

No, I said PV would never be involved in a full out brawl or play like JJK did in b-ball.
They are HS kids, they do stupid stuff all the time. But you are trying to justify the JJK incident because a PV kid pulled his **** out. They are NOT the same, no matter how much you try to make it seem like they are. Its simply not the same.

Let me ask you this, and answer this question only, no BS rhetoric or completely avoiding my point, answer this question.
Which is worse, me pulling my **** out at you, or me shoving you to the ground?

(This is not about the JJK incident. Its a hypothetical situation, just answer the question.)

Biggin, the question you are asking me is 100% a matter of both opinion and perspective. Pulling out your talleywacker and shoving someone are BOTH wrong. You may ask one person which is worse/would rather see and get a different answer from the next. The bottom line is that all of these incidents happened because young kids didn't think,and all these incidents caused embarrassment and shame to the schools and communities. The lesson to be learned of course is to be careful about condemming kids from one place,because in time (and it always inevitably does) one of your own is going to screw up as well. They are kids after all,and the folks on here (you and me included) forget that sometimes.

[Biggin]

I agree about condeming kids, im always the person who is against condeming kids for making stupid mistakes, PV kids or not .You know that, you've read my posts. Kids make mistakes, they are young they are gonna do that. No kid should be thrown under the bus, unless its an extreme situation. But I do not feel this is a big a deal as you guys are making it out to be. Its a kid doing something stupid, its not unusual.

The difference is it was just one PV kid doing something stupid, and you are comparing it to a few kids doing something stupid that could potentially really hurt someone, which the PV kid did not. He did not harm anyone, maybe offended some but no one got hurt.

Its not okay, its stupid and ridiculous, I'm not making excuses for it, he will be punished mightily, at home and at school. I already stated that he was booted off the team, is that not punishment enough?

And I dont want to start the fight back up, but JJK never punished their kids, and I am glad you realize that PV did the right thing by punishing him and that JJK was in the wrong for not disciplining their kids.

But its not a matter of opinion, physical altercations could lead to someone getting seriously hurt, while this was a stupid prank that people happened to see. I thought it was only one person, maybe I was wrong, but no one can get hurt from seeing a **** haha

[Gotch]

Tradition!? You mean this has been happening for some time? Years maybe? And nobody noticed till now!!!???? What does this say about all those previously in attendance? Or does it say more about all those who have previously done it without being noticed?

If no one had noticed its not indecent exposure btw, the way I read the law on it anyway.

Sure don't want any part of this "pi$$ing contest" (pun intended) but just for the record I do sort of understood Biggin's point. The big issue is not what any of the kids did. The issue is what the administrations in all of these cases did or didn't do.